# AFNI Message Board

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 July 13, 2021 05:24PM Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 15
This seems like the culprit. Here's the output:

timing_tool.py -multi_timing stimuli/*tent.txt -tr 2.0 -warn_tr_stats

within-TR stimulus offset statistics (stimuli/sub104_imagine_amb_norming_tent.txt) :
per run
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offset means 0.009 0.009 0.007
offset stdevs 0.002 0.003 0.003

overall: mean = 0.008 maxoff = 0.017 stdev = 0.0028
fractional: mean = 0.004 maxoff = 0.008 stdev = 0.0014

** WARNING: small maxoff suggests (almost) TR-locked stimuli
consider: timing_tool.py -round_times (if basis = TENT)

within-TR stimulus offset statistics (stimuli/sub104_imagine_att_norming_tent.txt) :
per run
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offset means 0.008 0.011 0.008
offset stdevs 0.003 0.003 0.005

overall: mean = 0.009 maxoff = 0.018 stdev = 0.0038
fractional: mean = 0.005 maxoff = 0.009 stdev = 0.0019

** WARNING: small maxoff suggests (almost) TR-locked stimuli
consider: timing_tool.py -round_times (if basis = TENT)

within-TR stimulus offset statistics (stimuli/sub104_imagine_rel_norming_tent.txt) :
per run
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offset means 0.011 0.011 0.007
offset stdevs 0.005 0.004 0.003

overall: mean = 0.010 maxoff = 0.021 stdev = 0.0044
fractional: mean = 0.005 maxoff = 0.011 stdev = 0.0022

** WARNING: small maxoff suggests (almost) TR-locked stimuli
consider: timing_tool.py -round_times (if basis = TENT)

I re-ran the analysis using the TENTzero function, as suggested by Gang. The output of that analysis produced much more reasonable values and the plot looked like an HRF. Do you recommend scrapping that and re-running the analysis with TENT and the rounded times or, if I am content with fewer modeling timepoints, does the TENTzero output still make sense?

Thanks!
Heather
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#### TENT function - extreme values at trial start

heatherb July 06, 2021 11:26AM

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Gang July 07, 2021 11:31AM

#### Re: TENT function - extreme values at trial start

rick reynolds July 13, 2021 04:54PM

#### Re: TENT function - extreme values at trial start

heatherb July 13, 2021 05:24PM

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rick reynolds July 13, 2021 05:30PM

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heatherb July 13, 2021 06:00PM

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