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May 05, 2003 11:43PM
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We have a couple questions about alphasim, thresholding, and clustering.

1) We plan on running alphasim on our original functional dataset (not =
the tlrc'd one) and the voxel size is 1.875 X 1.875 X 7 mm. What should =
we select as our connectivity radius; we suspected 1.88, but would like =
feedback on that.

2) We have three groups of subjects, and wish to do all pairwise =
comparisons. With Bonferroni correction, we get p=3D.0167 (.05/3) for =
each test. Is .0167 the value we enter as -pthr into alphasim? Is the =
-pthr for alphasim one- or two-tailed (.0167 versus .008)?=20

3) Is it correct that the slider bar in define function is two-tailed?

4) When clustering, do we enter the two-tailed t-value associated with =
p=3D.0167 into 3dmerge?=20

5) Is there a way to display the data where color/intensity reflects =
p-values in clustered data from a t-test in order to examine trends?

Is there a better way to correct for multiple comparisons in group data =
(e.g., creating ROIs in hopes of reducing the number of comparisons, and =
reducing cluster size necessary for significance at our criteria)? Using =
.0167 removes most of the clusters in group analyses that have quite a =
few subjects in each group.




Thanks for your time and assistance,

Brian and Alecia Schweinsburg





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) We plan on running alphasim on our =
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functional dataset (not the tlrc'd one) and the voxel size is 1.875 X =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2) We have three groups of subjects, =
and wish to do=20
all pairwise comparisons. With Bonferroni correction, we get p=3D.0167 =
(.05/3) for=20
each test. Is .0167 the value we enter as -pthr into alphasim? Is the =
-pthr for=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3) Is it correct that the slider bar in =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4) When clustering, do we enter the =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5) Is there a way to display the data =
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multiple=20
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questions on alphasim, thresholding, and clustering

Brian C. Schweinsburg May 05, 2003 11:43PM

Re: questions on alphasim, thresholding, and clustering

B. Douglas Ward May 07, 2003 12:58PM