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Dear AFNI users-

We are very pleased to announce that the new AFNI Message Board framework is up! Please join us at:

https://discuss.afni.nimh.nih.gov

Existing user accounts have been migrated, so returning users can login by requesting a password reset. New users can create accounts, as well, through a standard account creation process. Please note that these setup emails might initially go to spam folders (esp. for NIH users!), so please check those locations in the beginning.

The current Message Board discussion threads have been migrated to the new framework. The current Message Board will remain visible, but read-only, for a little while.

Sincerely, AFNI HQ

History of AFNI updates  

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May 13, 2003 12:38PM

Hello Frank:

Yes, something did change.

Program 3dFDR reads in the bucket dataset. Non-statistical sub-bricks are
copied directly to the output. Only statistical sub-bricks are converted
to the corresponding FDR z-scores. At least, that's the way it used to work.
But not anymore.

The gory details: (WARNING: This story is not for the fainthearted.)

To determine if a sub-brick is a statistical sub-brick, program 3dFDR
calls function FUNC_IS_STAT. Now, FUNC_IS_STAT in turn calls FUNC_HAVE_PVAL
to determine if the sub-brick has a corresponding p-value. But, FUNC_HAVE_PVAL
calls FUNC_HAVE_THR to determine if the sub-brick has a threshold value.
Now, here is where the story gets interesting. Prior to 06 Feb 2003,
fim type sub-bricks were coded as NOT being threshold type sub-bricks. However,
on that date, someone (with the initials RWC) changed the coding for the
fim type sub-bricks. So, now the fim type sub-bricks can be thresholded.
But this has the unfortunate side effect that fim type sub-bricks are now
identified by the software as being statistical type sub-bricks, and so
they are transformed to FDR z-scores (which are meaningless).

Doug Ward
Subject Author Posted

recent problems with 3dFDR

Frank Haist May 12, 2003 06:47PM

Re: recent problems with 3dFDR

B. Douglas Ward May 13, 2003 12:38PM

Re: recent problems with 3dFDR

Frank Haist May 13, 2003 12:49PM

Re: recent problems with 3dFDR

B. Douglas Ward May 13, 2003 12:58PM