AFNI Message Board

Dear AFNI users-

We are very pleased to announce that the new AFNI Message Board framework is up! Please join us at:

https://discuss.afni.nimh.nih.gov

Existing user accounts have been migrated, so returning users can login by requesting a password reset. New users can create accounts, as well, through a standard account creation process. Please note that these setup emails might initially go to spam folders (esp. for NIH users!), so please check those locations in the beginning.

The current Message Board discussion threads have been migrated to the new framework. The current Message Board will remain visible, but read-only, for a little while.

Sincerely, AFNI HQ

History of AFNI updates  

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July 25, 2017 01:35PM
The thresholding process envisioned and implemented in 3dClustSim has 2 steps:

(1) Per-voxel thresholding at some p-value. Smaller p-values are more strict: fewer voxels will "survive".

(2) From the "surviving" voxels, form spatially contiguous clusters. Delete those that are smaller than the cluster-size threshold.

Consider the case where you lower step 1's per-voxel p a lot (raise the t-statistic threshold high). Say you have Nvox=105 voxels, and set per-voxel p=5x10-7=0.05/Nvox. Then the Bonferroni correction tells you that the probability of ANY false positive voxel is less than 0.05 -- that is, a cluster-size threshold of 1 voxel is good.

Now imagine increasing p (lowering t) -- then there is a bigger chance of false positive voxels. At some point as p increases, when more false positive voxels occur, they will clump together, and the chance of getting a cluster of size 2 voxels FROM NOISE ALONE will get large.

And so on. Larger per-voxel p means more false positive voxels, means that to keep the overall (or global) false positive probability at 5%, we have to eliminate more clusters.
Subject Author Posted

3dClustsim - smaller cluster size threshold at more stringent p threshold

Lauren L July 25, 2017 10:57AM

Re: 3dClustsim - smaller cluster size threshold at more stringent p threshold

Bob Cox July 25, 2017 01:35PM

Re: 3dClustsim - smaller cluster size threshold at more stringent p threshold

Lauren L August 10, 2017 05:34PM