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June 21, 2022 10:10AM
Hello,

This is not all fully clear to me either, but there might be some points worth making.

The Gaussian CDF should be the cumulative distribution function of the standard normal Gaussian "bell" curve, with the CDF going from 0 as x approaches -inf, through (0, 0.5) (i.e. at x=0, half the CDF accumulates to 0.5), and approaching 1 as x approaches +inf. The "reversed" form of this is just a reflection over the y-axis, leaving a curve that starts at 1, still goes through (0, .5) and then approaches 0 as x approaches positive infinity.

So this reversed Gaussian CDF, when restricted to x > 0 is akin to a z-score to p-value conversion (though for a full CDF, it is like a 2-tailed version).

For kicks, consider the commands (in tcsh syntax):

# start with some arbitrary value
set val = 2.5
ccalc "qg($val)"
ccalc `cdf -t2p fizt $val`/2

That makes its inverse (qginv()) akin to a p-value to z-score conversion.

So alpha = qginv(0.001/N) is possibly like like p=0.001, bonferroni corrected for the number of time points (as noted by Paul), then converted to a z-score. The sqrt(pi/2) is unclear to me, though maybe it is because the actual Gaussian CDF integrating to sqrt(pi/2), or maybe it is another normalizing factor.

These p to z conversions might then give a reasonable justification for what values constitute outliers, when the deviations are compared with the median absolute deviation.

Does that seem at least modestly reasonable?

- rick
Subject Author Posted

Calculating Outliers

Nikin Baidar May 26, 2022 09:51AM

Re: Calculating Outliers

rick reynolds June 21, 2022 10:10AM