AFNI Message Board

Dear AFNI users-

We are very pleased to announce that the new AFNI Message Board framework is up! Please join us at:

https://discuss.afni.nimh.nih.gov

Existing user accounts have been migrated, so returning users can login by requesting a password reset. New users can create accounts, as well, through a standard account creation process. Please note that these setup emails might initially go to spam folders (esp. for NIH users!), so please check those locations in the beginning.

The current Message Board discussion threads have been migrated to the new framework. The current Message Board will remain visible, but read-only, for a little while.

Sincerely, AFNI HQ

History of AFNI updates  

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Bob Cox
March 11, 2009 12:04PM
We have recently run into a problem where a user constructed the individual subject beta maps with individual masks, then transformed to Tailairach/MNI space, then did the group analysis on this collection of datasets.

At the periphery of the brain, peculiar artifactual statistics showed up -- because such voxels were zero in many of the subjects but not all. In the limiting case, an edge voxel would be nonzero in only one subject. The statistics at such places are meaningless, of course. By themselves, these edge artifacts aren't a real problem, but when these statistics are converted to p-values and then are included in the computation of the FDR q-value, they bias the results.

We VERY STRONGLY recommend that you use a common mask at the group analysis level. It's simplest to do this using Rick R's afni_proc.py script at the individual subject level (with no mask at all), transform the beta results to Talairach/MNI, and only THEN use the same brain mask to zero out the unwanted voxels in all the subjects' datasets -- this mask being derived from the collection of individual subject masks (by intersection) or directly from the Talairach/MNI reference brain -- whatever floats your boat.
Subject Author Posted

Group analysis and brain masking

Bob Cox March 11, 2009 12:04PM

Re: Group analysis and brain masking

Bob Cox March 11, 2009 03:01PM