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Dear AFNI users-

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Sincerely, AFNI HQ

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May 30, 2009 12:46AM
Just to pipe in on this topic.... If you are doing your group analyses by performing a statistical test across the individual subjects' r-to-Z transformed maps, then removing the temporal autocorrelations at the subject-level using 3dREMLfit will affect the group map. The reason for this is that the REMLfit operation reduces the subjects' r-values, which results in lower Zs. Ziad, of course, knows this is certainly the case; he was merely testing us to see if we are awake… winking smiley

We've looked at this in our data and find a pretty substantial drop in the r-values using 3dREMLfit (vs. 3dDeconvolve), although the group maps overall don't look too different assuming you use a slightly lower p-threshold on the group map. So, 3dREMLfit will affect the group maps (quantitatively, if not qualitatively) if you are performing your group analysis on r-to-Z transformed data (which is what most folks do). This fact is separate from the issue of whether or not to remove temporal autocorrelations in functional connectivity analyses, and whether it might matter if your connectivity analyses are conducted in task data or task-independent (resting state) data. On that issue, Ziad makes some very good points.

Subject Author Posted

Use 3dREMLfit for connectivity analyses?

Mp Schroeder May 26, 2009 03:02PM

Re: Use 3dREMLfit for connectivity analyses?

Mp Schroeder May 28, 2009 01:43PM

Re: Use 3dREMLfit for connectivity analyses?

bob cox May 28, 2009 05:33PM

Re: Use 3dREMLfit for connectivity analyses?

ziad May 29, 2009 09:12AM

Re: Use 3dREMLfit for connectivity analyses?

Kyle Simmons May 30, 2009 12:46AM

Re: Use 3dREMLfit for connectivity analyses?

Mp Schroeder June 01, 2009 02:35PM