AFNI Message Board

Dear AFNI users-

We are very pleased to announce that the new AFNI Message Board framework is up! Please join us at:

https://discuss.afni.nimh.nih.gov

Existing user accounts have been migrated, so returning users can login by requesting a password reset. New users can create accounts, as well, through a standard account creation process. Please note that these setup emails might initially go to spam folders (esp. for NIH users!), so please check those locations in the beginning.

The current Message Board discussion threads have been migrated to the new framework. The current Message Board will remain visible, but read-only, for a little while.

Sincerely, AFNI HQ

History of AFNI updates  

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July 16, 2012 10:52AM
AFNI's blurring programs (3dmerge and 3dBlurInMask) just add smoothness to datasets, so if there is some pre-existing smoothness, you will end up with more smoothness than you might anticipate. I imagine that SPM (etc.) does the same.

Assuming the spatially uniform Gaussian model for smoothness is correct (which is what 3dFWHMx estimates), then if the pre-existing smoothness were described by FWHM of 'P' and you then blurred with an additional FWHM of 'Q', you should get a final FWHM of sqrt(P*P+Q*Q). This pre-existing smoothness can arise from several different sources: the pulse sequence used for image acquisition (spiral vs. EPI, ramp-sampling), T2* decay during readout, and the image reconstruction algorithm itself (e.g., GE's default recon is usually somewhat smoother than Siemens').

Not knowing anything about how SPM smooths or estimates smoothness, I can't comment on the difference between their results and ours. 3dmerge usually uses a FIR filter for smoothing, but will switch to an FFT-based method for larger kernels. 3dBlurInMask (and 3dBlurToFWHM) use an iterative diffusive filter.
Subject Author Posted

smoothing with 3dmerge vs. spm_smooth

nick July 11, 2012 02:36PM

Re: smoothing with 3dmerge vs. spm_smooth

Hang Joon Jo July 11, 2012 06:21PM

Re: smoothing with 3dmerge vs. spm_smooth

nick July 12, 2012 07:50AM

Re: smoothing with 3dmerge vs. spm_smooth

Bob Cox July 16, 2012 10:52AM

Re: smoothing with 3dmerge vs. spm_smooth

nick July 16, 2012 11:16AM

Re: smoothing with 3dmerge vs. spm_smooth

rick reynolds July 11, 2012 09:12PM

Re: smoothing with 3dmerge vs. spm_smooth

nick July 12, 2012 07:54AM