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SI
January 25, 2016 07:09AM
Hi

I have a related question and would like to know whether I am using the new option -acf correctly, both for 3dFWHMx and 3dClustSim. I am using SPM12 for preprocessing and statistical analyses.

For whole-brain analyses:
1. I estimated the smoothness using 3dFWHMx:
"3dFWHMx -input ResMS.nii -mask mask.nii -detrend -acf"
whereby, ResMS.nii is the group ResMS image (I did not compute the acf parameters for every subject and then compute the
average. The reason, is that I have different group-level analyses and the smoothness changes based on the
regressors I enter into the second level analysis)
mask.nii is the mask from the group-level analysis

2. I entered the estimated acf parameters into 3dClustSim:
"3dClustSim -mask mask.nii -acf 0.403842 5.06071 13.2778 -pthr 0.01 -athr 0.05 -iter 10000 -nodec -quiet"
mask.nii is the mask from the group-level analysis (same as above)

With the "classical" version (i.e. instead of using -acf I was using -fwhmxyz and entering the smoothness of the data based on the group level analysis (in mm)) I was getting a cluster size of 734 voxels for a threshold of 0.01, with -acf I get for the same group analysis and threshold a cluster of 1989 voxels.

On the other hand estimating the cluster size for an ROI with 5000 voxels, reduces the minimal cluster size from 102 voxels (classical version) to 55 voxels (-acf).

As these are significant increases/decreases in cluster size, I would like to be sure that I am estimating the cluster size correctly.

Thanks for your help and advice!
Sandra
Subject Author Posted

ACF, 3dFWHMx, 3dClustSim and Cluster Size

sgreen January 21, 2016 02:01PM

Re: ACF, 3dFWHMx, 3dClustSim and Cluster Size

Emperor Zhark January 21, 2016 04:10PM

Re: ACF, 3dFWHMx, 3dClustSim and Cluster Size

rick reynolds January 21, 2016 04:22PM

Re: ACF, 3dFWHMx, 3dClustSim and Cluster Size

sgreen January 21, 2016 04:39PM

Re: ACF, 3dFWHMx, 3dClustSim and Cluster Size

rick reynolds January 21, 2016 08:38PM

Re: ACF, 3dFWHMx, 3dClustSim and Cluster Size

SI January 25, 2016 07:09AM