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July 10, 2020 03:30PM
Hi Daniel,

Thank you so much for getting back to me. I am still not convinced that these z-scores of 13 are not some kind of error. Particularly because the t-values for these voxels produced by 3dttest++ do not seem to be extreme (or not more extreme then the t-values for neighboring voxels). For example, voxel A has a t-score of 10.65 and a z-score of 13. It's neighbor, voxel B, has a t-score of 10.23, but a z-score of 8.13.

For what it's worth, the command I am running is as follows:
3dttest++ -prefix belvthink_belvdesthink_1 -setA shellgame_*_belvthink_resampled* -mask belvdesthink_1_dilate1+tlrc -Clustsim 8

Just to make sure it was not some kind of issue being produced with the cluster correction, I reran this analysis without -Clustsim but including the -toz flag as follows:
3dttest++ -prefix belvthink_belvdesthink_1 -setA shellgame_*_belvthink_resampled* -toz -mask belvdesthink_1_dilate1+tlrc
This produced the same aberrant z-scores so it seems as though the error is occurring in the t to z conversion that is done with -toz. Can you tell me a little bit more about what happens in -toz? How does AFNI convert the t-scores to z-scores?

Thank you again for your help!
Regan



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Anomalistic z-scores

rbernhard June 29, 2020 12:20PM

Re: Anomalistic z-scores

Daniel Glen July 02, 2020 01:06PM

Re: Anomalistic z-scores

rbernhard July 03, 2020 02:29PM

Re: Anomalistic z-scores

rbernhard July 05, 2020 02:05PM

Re: Anomalistic z-scores

Daniel Glen July 07, 2020 06:10PM

Re: Anomalistic z-scores

rbernhard July 10, 2020 03:30PM

Re: Anomalistic z-scores

RWCox July 14, 2020 10:10AM

Re: Anomalistic z-scores

rick reynolds July 14, 2020 11:19AM

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rbernhard July 14, 2020 02:14PM

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rick reynolds July 30, 2020 10:31AM