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September 15, 2003 12:57PM
Hi Tim,

Many thanks for the message.

This is what I think. I guess that the word "baseline" is a little bit vague and confusing as well. If there is only a constant value for each voxel as a "baseline" when we model the FMRI signal, we could just use the average value along the time as the t^0 term, and we wouldn't care at all whether there are some windows of fixation, for example, in the experimental design. In other words, as you said, you could have regressors covering all timepoints.

However, most of time the brain seems not staying there with a horizontal line of signal even if it is not performing any tasks. Instead we model the resting state with a seasonal (trend) effect, usually in linear or even quadratic fashion. That is, we fit the resting state with c0 t^0 + c1 t or c0 t^0 + c1 t + c2 t^2. Some people even fit it with higher order of polynomials. With 3dDeconvolve, if you don't specify the "baseline" model when you run 3dDeconvolve, the program assumes that you want a linear fitting of the "baseline" (c0 t^0 + c1 t) instead of constant (c0 t^0). Otherwise the option "-polort #" would tell 3dDeconvolve the order (#) of the fitting polynomial. Exactly for this reason, a good experiment design needs some extent (usually 15-40%) of the scanning time devoted specifically for resting (control) state so that we could model the "baseline" (polynomial) part.

Does this make sense?

Gang
Subject Author Posted

Baseline

Teodora September 15, 2003 09:03AM

Re: Baseline

Gang Chen September 15, 2003 09:53AM

Re: Baseline

Timothy Souza September 15, 2003 11:02AM

Re: Baseline

Gang Chen September 15, 2003 12:57PM

Re: Baseline

Timothy Souza September 15, 2003 01:33PM

Re: Baseline

Gang Chen September 15, 2003 02:52PM

Re: Baseline

bob cox September 15, 2003 03:24PM

Re: Baseline

Kelly September 16, 2003 03:05PM

Re: Baseline

Gang Chen September 16, 2003 04:55PM

Re: Baseline

teodora February 06, 2004 11:00AM