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September 16, 2003 04:55PM
OK, let me try if I can get this straight in pure mathematical sense.

Yes, if you run 3dDeconvolve with -polort 0, the baseline (just a constant) would be estimated with those timepoints unspecified by all the regressors.

If you run 3dDeconvolve with -polort 0 and if your stimulus files are indexed with 0's and 1's and if all the stimulus files add up to 1 (i.e., the subject was performing various tasks all the time), then 3dDeconvolve would sputter with the following error message:

3dDeconvolve Error: Improper X matrix (cannot invert X'X)

The reason for this is that the first column of your design matrix X, which is all 1's, would be linear combination of those stimulus vectors. This would lead to an non-invertible X'X.

However, if you run waver with these same stimulus files, and then run 3dDeconvolve with the output as regressors, you would have no problem generating some results, and you would get the constant (-polort 0) estimated at each voxel. Well, this happens because running waver changed the picture of the linear dependence: the two regressors are no long linear dependent.

From modeling point of view, even if you could estimate the constant by setting -polort 0 in 3dDeconvolve, you would fail on catching the trend of the baseline, leading to a less accurate activation map.

Gang
Subject Author Posted

Baseline

Teodora September 15, 2003 09:03AM

Re: Baseline

Gang Chen September 15, 2003 09:53AM

Re: Baseline

Timothy Souza September 15, 2003 11:02AM

Re: Baseline

Gang Chen September 15, 2003 12:57PM

Re: Baseline

Timothy Souza September 15, 2003 01:33PM

Re: Baseline

Gang Chen September 15, 2003 02:52PM

Re: Baseline

bob cox September 15, 2003 03:24PM

Re: Baseline

Kelly September 16, 2003 03:05PM

Re: Baseline

Gang Chen September 16, 2003 04:55PM

Re: Baseline

teodora February 06, 2004 11:00AM