AFNI Message Board

Dear AFNI users-

We are very pleased to announce that the new AFNI Message Board framework is up! Please join us at:

https://discuss.afni.nimh.nih.gov

Existing user accounts have been migrated, so returning users can login by requesting a password reset. New users can create accounts, as well, through a standard account creation process. Please note that these setup emails might initially go to spam folders (esp. for NIH users!), so please check those locations in the beginning.

The current Message Board discussion threads have been migrated to the new framework. The current Message Board will remain visible, but read-only, for a little while.

Sincerely, AFNI HQ

History of AFNI updates  

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February 18, 2004 10:31AM
SETUP A:
-a levels --> 8 one for each timepoint that you estimated in the deconvolution
-b levels --> 2 one for each task
-c levels --> 10 one for each subject
fixed, fixed, and random effects for the levels, respectively

SETUP B:
-a levels --> 8 one for each timepoint that you estimated in the deconvolution
-b levels --> 2 one for each task
fixed and fixed effects for the levels, respectively


In setup B with 3dANOVA2, you are testing whether there is any significant difference of various factor effects, among the 8 levels of factor A and between the 2 tasks. The data from 10 subjects are treated as 10 repeated observations for each combination.

In setup A with 3dANOVA3, in addition to the above difference, you view those 10 subjects as a resprentative group (random smapling) of some imaginary population. However, if you don't have any repeated scans for each combination, there is no way you can test the variability of the subject mean since the defree of freedom for MSE would be zero.

In your situation, setup A does not provide you any more statistical testing choices than setup B. Plus, you lose more statistical power with setup A since there is basically one sample for each cell. Unless you do have repeated scans for each subject (in which you can test the subject variance and interactions between subject and any of other factors), you'd be better off with setup B.

Yes, 3dANOVA4 would be very handy in some situations. I'm still working on it. Just keep your fingers crossed.

Gang
Subject Author Posted

3dANOVA....

Donald McLaren February 17, 2004 10:44PM

Re: 3dANOVA....

Gang Chen February 18, 2004 10:31AM

Re: 3dANOVA....

Donald February 19, 2004 01:05PM

Re: 3dANOVA....

Gang Chen February 19, 2004 01:47PM