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May 19, 2004 02:09PM
Hi Tom and Lukas,

OK, see if I can get this straight.

Since you want a quick test without worrying any potential statistical 'penality', you'd probably have to comvert the two t subbriks into z (normal distribution) by running 3dmerge with its -1zscore option.

Because the information about standard deviation is not stored in the ANFI dataset, we have to do a little calculation:

Z_1 = M_1 / S_1

Z_2 = M_2 / S_2

where Z_1 and Z_2 are the coverted z scores of the two sets, M_1 and M_2 group means, S_1 and S_2 standard deviations. Among these variables, only S_1 and S_2 are unknown.

Now we want to get (M_1 - M_2) and the corresponding z score.

3dcalc can generate (M_1 - M_2), and its standard deviation can be estimated as sqrt(S_1^2 + S_2^2). Therefore its z score would be

Z = (M_1 - M_2) / sqrt(S_1^2 + S_2^2)
= (M_1 - M_2) / sqrt((M_1/Z_1)^2 + (M_2/Z_2)^2)

Then run 3dcalc again with the above expression.

Is this something you want?

I am not so sure about your scenario, but the more accurate and more legitimate way is to obtain the comparison test while you run group analysis such as 3dttest or ANOVA or 3dDeconvolve.

Gang
Subject Author Posted

combining statistics

Tom Holroyd May 19, 2004 10:25AM

Re: combining statistics

Gang Chen May 19, 2004 10:41AM

Re: combining statistics

Tom Holroyd May 19, 2004 11:11AM

Re: combining statistics

Gang Chen May 19, 2004 02:09PM

Re: combining statistics

Lukas Pezawas May 21, 2004 12:43PM

Re: combining statistics

Lukas Pezawas May 19, 2004 12:03PM

Re: combining statistics

sally durgerian May 19, 2004 04:04PM

Re: combining statistics

Lukas Pezawas May 21, 2004 12:44PM