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Dear AFNI users-

We are very pleased to announce that the new AFNI Message Board framework is up! Please join us at:

https://discuss.afni.nimh.nih.gov

Existing user accounts have been migrated, so returning users can login by requesting a password reset. New users can create accounts, as well, through a standard account creation process. Please note that these setup emails might initially go to spam folders (esp. for NIH users!), so please check those locations in the beginning.

The current Message Board discussion threads have been migrated to the new framework. The current Message Board will remain visible, but read-only, for a little while.

Sincerely, AFNI HQ

History of AFNI updates  

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December 14, 2004 03:59PM
> can the -stim_times option in the new version of 3dDeconvolve
> be used in conjuction with deconvolution, or only with multiple
> regression?

Only regression.

It seems that some confusions exist here. For an event-related design, the real question about modeling at individual subject analysis level is not really about regression or deconvolution+regression although it is portrayed that way most of the time. Instead the issue is: Do you want to model the impulse response functions yourself or just use some standard impulse response function?

With TR-locked timing, you can run deconvolution+regression to model impulse response function, or run regression analysis on pre-convoluted stimulus files with waver.

With irregular timing, deconvolution is difficult to implement. Instead 3dDeconvolve uses different kinds of basis functions to model impulse response functions. Those basis functions still give the user different options: If you are not interested in modeling the impulse response functions yourself, simply use any of standard impulse functions such as gamma variates; If you want to model voxel-based response functions , use more subtle basis functions such as tent.

So for irregular timing, the modeling decision of impulse response functions hinges on the type of basis functions you select, not about the choice of regression/deconvolution.

> How would one specificy the specific irregular stimulus timings in
> the context of a deconvolution analysis? For example, if the stim
> was always delivered at the midpoint of the TR, how could that
> be indicated?

For timing files, the user simply provides all the moments when a stimulus was given. If your stimulus was always delivered at the midpoint of the TR (TR = 2 sec), an example of stimulus timing file for condition 1 is something like

11
25
37
43
59

Gang
Subject Author Posted

3dDeconvolve -stim_times and -iresp

Jony December 13, 2004 10:29AM

Re: 3dDeconvolve -stim_times and -iresp

Gang Chen December 14, 2004 10:54AM

Re: 3dDeconvolve -stim_times and -iresp

Brian December 14, 2004 03:06PM

Re: 3dDeconvolve -stim_times and -iresp

Gang Chen December 14, 2004 03:59PM